Why does every teen in the USA hate school?
im 16 & absoulutley hate school. I almost didnt come back from break this morning. last night everyones status on facebook was like "ahhh no!! i hate school!", i just think this is really sad how many people actually hate school and how are school system in set up for teens. Please share your opinion.
Other - Society & Culture - 15 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
A lot of them are followers, teen media has presented rebellion and school hatred as "cool". Some are just trying to find themselves and feel school is pressuring them to be conformist, other feel they're to stupid and have stopped trying. I'd say the majority of them are just saying it cause their friends say it.
2 :
because it's compulsory and starts too early in the morning.
3 :
thoz who like gals like school,i hate it
4 :
Well, it is natural for people to hate doing work.
5 :
Most teens hate school because its one of the most boring places to be where people nag you and if you do one little thing then everyone is on your back about it.
6 :
School needs more clowns!,these bored students just sit around without a silly person to entertain them!,i could come to your school and juggle,maybe even bash the teachers.
7 :
Every Teen Everywhere Hates School. They Say " Your Here To Learn, We're Here To Help " . Bullshit. We're Here Cause' We Have To Be. And They're There For The Money.
8 :
Because it traps you for 6:30 and when you are done, guess what HOMEWORK! And I'm a striaght A student and I hate shcool, and also I hardly ever learn anything!
9 :
Here in the US, many parents don't raise us to cherish the freedoms and the privileges our ancestors sought and died for. Then again, it's a very difficult feat. Out of sight, out of mind, right? Americans thrive on escapism; sports, movies, video games, alcohol, drugs, music, etc. Our entertainment industry has a huge voice in our youth, hence our American culture is very in tune with our American Pop Culture. I hope you're sticking it out and do well in school. Because in a couple years, you're going to "absolutely hate" rent, bills, work, and a car that always has something wrong with it. When that day comes, you'll be wishing you were 16 again. Like me :) The US school system is a one track deal, Elem -> Mid -> High, then graduation, which is unforunate. In most European countries, there are several avenues one can take in education up to college, which is free in some countries. I think our nation would benefit a more diverse school system like such as they have overseas. Edit::: I noticed Lissa said "They're there for the money" PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, look up an average teacher's salary. After the 4 to 5 years they commited to a college education that doesn't transcend into other career fields, and wracked up tens of thousands of dollars in student loans, they do not get the money they deserve to put up with our apathetic youth and loud-mouth parents. Teachers are in it for the money? You really are lost if you believe that.
10 :
It's so much work! God, I just want to sleep all day, but instead I have to get up at 5 am to go to school to do schoolwork. Then I get home and have to do homework. And the food at school sucks.
11 :
School is not set up for the students at all. It's for the government to give them the ability to say that they did their best to educate the children. Most kids hate school because they are told they have to do it. If the kids were given a choice they wouldn't be so hostile towards education. I can already tell someone is gonna argue saying that school can't be voluntary or our society will fall, blah blah blah. Well, you're wrong, the kids will see that the people who went to school were able to get great jobs and make money. This will give them the motivation to want to get educated. It would also give the parents the ability to do what they're meant to do, raise their kids and make the important decisions that are currently made for them. I recently graduated and have realized that I loved school. I may have felt like I hated it while I was there, but I liked having the ability to build a social life while I learned. Our lives are forever shaped by the connections we make in school. A lot of kids nowadays are going to college because they choose to, you're not forced into going to college. Kids are seeing that they need college to get where they want to go and are making the choice. Lissa - Agreed. lol. Good way to put it. Person who disagreed with Lissa - All I have to say is I already forgot your name and what I was gonna respond with. All I know is that it wasn't going to be positive.
12 :
School is the dumbest thing invented in history.
13 :
Well, i dislike the idea that i'm being forced to do something. I love chocolate, but if someone were to force me it eat it, i'd freak. If it were optional, i would go anyways because i know there are so many that don't have the opportunity to get an education. Maybe its the a**holes you have to deal with, or the stupid teachers that forget that they assigned a project(i didn't mind... well expect for the fact i stayed up well past midnight to finish it cause my group was lazy). Or maybe its the fact that you're getting up before the sun does. I know I don't like the fact that you have very little control over what you learn. Really, unless it has something to do with my job, when am I going to need to know how many electrons are in a coulomb?
14 :
Because we are nagged by the government to lose weight and be healthy. We then get lots of homework which on our break time was have to do, we barely relax then work out and stuff if we have time. Then adults bug us that we have it easy while complaining about it online...then we go to bed late because homework plus other affairs theres just not enough hours in a day. then we get up early and we get harassed by our parents to go to bed earlier....Thennnn the governments do studies that say teens need more sleeep which we would LOVEEEEE but we CANT have any more sleep because were doing too many things! In any other scenerio locking kids up for 5-8 hours a day 5 days a week would be considered inhumane. Our parents can get in trouble and go to jail if we dont go to school . If you dont do exactly what your told would be held after school....then theres some schools with uniforms and we cant even wear a toque walking in the front door without being asked to take it off because its against the rules. Then we have to do homework at home. theres peer pressure and parents are at home relaxing while kids have homework (yes i know our parents generation had homework too). Also i hate how we get homework over "break times". I just got back from winter break and my facebook page was also filled with kids saying i hate school etc. I was worrying about homework a lot and had to do quite a bit while my teacher said she wasnt marking anything at all over the break :/ The bottom line is that kids hate school because the times have changed and the school system is old fashioned! Our parents make us do all of these events and this and that and then we still have school on top of that with too many rules, not enough sleep and not enough free time while being held against our will daily and sent home with enforceable by law work that if we dont do on a regular basis our grades will slip and drop out......cops come after us. -.-
15 :
School completely destroys your mind, it gives you just enough freedom so you come everyday but your miserable...it spits you out after four years as a tool to society, sucks you into the draining capitalist ways of the greedy and after a week about learning about romantics and transcendentalism the teacher tells you to listen, and follower their direction because they know best...SCHOOL IS MAKING US SHUT OFF OUR BRAINS!!!! don't believe me....every philosopher in time says you must do what you want...well what do you want??? I bet 90% of the time you "want" something created by humans...well you've lost your nature..you've lost yourself and become part of a machine. Have fun... if there is a devil school is his creation because it would be the temptation and sin of power hungry indviduals who have lost sight of love and freedom and have cluttered the pathway of life with sofas and fancy cars and prostitution and bullshit...fucking bullshit...whio made school so we all turn out like them..."i love education but if its not taking me where i need to be then fuck education" they are teaching us to be corrupt...there is no longer a sense of enlightenment...a sense of containment has overtaken because we no longer are able to release our minds and souls. i plead for anyone instigated in anyway by this to contact me for further civil discussion.
Read more discussion :
Saturday, December 24, 2011
Friday, December 16, 2011
Do you think the school shootings in USA is linked to bullying in schools ?
Do you think the school shootings in USA is linked to bullying in schools ?
Please talk freely about both school shooting and bullying. I appreciate if you have personal experience with either and can share.
Current Events - 11 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
never been bullied,but knew someone who hung themselves for it. U S should ban hand guns and shooting people cos you were bullied is no excuse
2 :
I really don't know.It's the first thing to come to my mind too.I often wonder if the person holding the gun has been bullied so much,he can longer go on so takes the bullies out with him.
3 :
Many people live through their lives undergoing adversity, however only a few CHOOSE to deal with adversity through violence. I really don't know if I was bullied..I was called names and teased because of the way that I looked, but in the end it never infiltrated my sense of self, I was very happy and thought very highly of myself, I wouldn't believe that anybody wouldn't like me...I didn't notice this part of me though until I became a mother of a child that is very similar. I think that life is about choices and you make your choices and deal with the consequences. I always felt sorry for the people who made fun of me...what was so wrong with them that they felt they had to be so mean to people...I never took it personally (for long anyway) my attention span for that type of attack was and is very small.
4 :
Americans need to deal with some of their own major problems instead of invading and occupying other countries. Your country has so many problems but your women are busy shopping for clothes or looking like porn stars.
5 :
I am a teacher and a social worker. My view is that the family as a unit, for so many families, does no longer exist. Family parents both need to work to support the family. Family eating habits are not those where the family sits down, nicely, at supper time, and discuss the day. There is lack of familial unity in almost every level. Children go to school, go to a sitter, or are latch key children with no adult to supervise them. Once home, everyone is busy! Parents are preparing for the next day's work, doing house work, laundry, and the children are left to 'fend' for themselves. Standard social procedures are no longer taught as they once were. Children feel they lack power. Getting their power comes, often, from bullying others. Children can't run next door and play with a friend, anymore.........that family is busy, too! Children who are supervised can't go outside and find someone to play with, as they used to be able to do. That would be dangerous in today's society. My six yr old grandson has no school mates to visit after school, as his parents tell me they don't know the parents.......they don't know what kind of people they are. So, he plays with his cousins, and that is the arena he is safe in, and he goes no farther. I care for this young boy, as both parents work, daily. My grandson is well mannored, and clean spoken. I have tried to FIND him other boys his age with which to play, while at my home. So far, the boys his age have filthy mouths, and no parenting that can be detected at all! Parenting skills have practically disappeared while the computer games and DVDs have taken their place. That is a real trajedy. These same parents are so shocked when they realize their young adults are on drugs or drinking heavily. They are quick to site, "Not our fault, we didn't do them around the kids!"..........uh, huh. The parent with the snack for the child who comes home from school, directly, no longer exists in most of our society. Children are not directed to socially accepted behavior. This, of course, is not meant for those parents who do make certain their children are well parented. The family, as a unit, is rarely seen in most churches, anymore, as well. Those who are, are to be praised..........if only because it does promote unity and responsibility. Responsibility for ones behavior is not being taught anywhere, for most young children. Time is precious, and time passes along, as we rush and hurry and make sure we get our work done, in house and at the work site. Money is scarce and jobs are important. Still, there must be a regular standard of behavior for our children, and we, as adults ARE responsible for teaching it while they are young, and throughout the teen years. Children and teens tell me they cannot speak to their parents.........they are too busy to talk to the children. Young girls don't even know how to approach their mother when they enter puberty. A society without rules that are enforced by parents, is a society that will 'grow' bullies and criminals. Did the parent ASK where that particular item came from, when they find something new or unfamiliar in their child's room? Did they check that out? Do parents, now, believe they only have time to tell their children what NOT to do, instead of what TO do? That is what I see. Life without rules that are kept, is like playing ball on a mountain top. Consider the mountain top has no fence.......there are cliffs completely surrounding the area. Rules are the fence. No rules, no fence, and the children fall off the cliff, while trying to catch the ball. With that secure fence, the children may play, and know when to stop their behavior........they live safely. ....they play ball in joy and no one has to worry about falling. I love children. I've worked with them all my life, and I am 63. I have been guardian, birth mother, foster mother, court advocate, and even had a baby left upon my doorstep! People love my adult boys and their children, as well. We explain to our children what IS o.k. to do, why it is o.k., and what happens if they don't do it. We never hit our children, we only told them we were disappointed if they broke a rule. Still, they grew up to be wonderful citizens and caring, loving people. They don't believe that hurting someone makes them right or strong. They know my rule about speaking in a too loud of a voice. I believe the first person who starts screaming has run out of logic and is cowering with a loud voice. You'd like my children.................all of them. I know I'm proud of them.
6 :
I wouldn't necessarily relate them as an automatic cause and effect, but every shooting case I'm aware of that occurred in a grade school or a high school has a background of bullying (unprovoked battery) or harassment (including sexual). • Complaints the suspect generated about the abuse he'd been subjected to were generally dismissed by adult authority figures as "normal behaviour" if not disregarded altogether. • The systems of belief and etiquette favoured by the suspect's parents often did not take into account the moral need to stand up for oneself. He may be "too well behaved" and needs a sense of universal order in his life. He may at some point have expressed an interest in studying martial arts, or being sent away to boarding/military school, or just attend a faith-based school nearby, either of which would have been declined by the parents for financial OR PHILOSOPHICAL reasons. A bully on the other hand is someone who has not been effectively parented. He does not see his fellow humans as individuals with unique feeling and aspirations.
7 :
Bullying is probably part of society worldwide and it does not limit to age or gender, and of course it is done by people with personality problems. Aggressive bullying goes even further, and the aggressor tends to seriously hurt (or kill) sooner or later. If you combine that with the COMPLETE freedom to purchase weapons in the U.S., you have the perfect lethal combination. While minors cannot legally purchase weapons, all adults can, and not ever being too far out of reach, it is really a wonder that there's not at least one school shooting every single day!
8 :
I think it could be. Some people at my school get bullied for numerous things this one kid I knew got bulled for three years cause his parents make him wear a purity ring. this next kid deserves to be bullied cause he is such a racist to black, hispanics, asians, he's very rude. everyone has a point in their life when they can get bullied some people deal with it well, I used to not be able to I would always throw up my food cause the thought of eating made me sick to my stomach when I was bullied in fifth grade. some kids there's something wrong with them in their mind mentally that triggers something and having people they dont' even know calling them a "freak" or "physco" doesn't help. or you never know some people may bring their violence at home to school.
9 :
A bullied student always feels a loss of prestige because he is made to feel inferior among his peers. He/she wants to get even but cannot do so physically because the bully is usually much bigger than his victim. So he resorts to a weapon, if one is available, to even the score. Often the bully is himself a victim of a bigger person and he evens the score by bullying a smaller guy. I think that there should be no guns in a house that has children even up to the age of 21. While at 15 or so the children look grown they are emotionally immature and do not stop to think of consequences before they act. My parents impressed upon me, when I was in school, that such people were to be avoided. Fighting just resulted in 2 bloody noses and did not prove anything. There are some parents who encourage fighting back because they feel that an insult to the kid is an insult to them. However children do not realize that killing is too drastic and permanent an answer to an unpleasantness. This is essentially the job of the parents to instill a respect for life, and a healthy fear of the consequences to a murderer. If he is made to realize the consequences of his actions by the time he is 6 or 7, this may not happen. Also the child needs to be able to talk about it to his parents without any judgment that he was a sissy for avoiding the bully.
10 :
All those school shooters were victims of bullies and the more teachers refuse to stop bullying the more school shooting there will be.
11 :
yes! we need to stop the bullying. i sympathise with these children who are teased so bad that they lose all control and instead of fighting they kill . this needs to stop. parents and teachers need to do something. pass a bill in congress to help your children and help teachers . my son is bullied and i was to. we need people to go to schools and do conferences and tell these kids that this needs to stop and if it doesn't then strict discipline needs to be put in to action. i remember trying to kill my self at 16 because i was teased so bad because i was really over weight. Now i'm successful and not so over weight. This needs to stop now. Soon we will not have our children safe.
Please talk freely about both school shooting and bullying. I appreciate if you have personal experience with either and can share.
Current Events - 11 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
never been bullied,but knew someone who hung themselves for it. U S should ban hand guns and shooting people cos you were bullied is no excuse
2 :
I really don't know.It's the first thing to come to my mind too.I often wonder if the person holding the gun has been bullied so much,he can longer go on so takes the bullies out with him.
3 :
Many people live through their lives undergoing adversity, however only a few CHOOSE to deal with adversity through violence. I really don't know if I was bullied..I was called names and teased because of the way that I looked, but in the end it never infiltrated my sense of self, I was very happy and thought very highly of myself, I wouldn't believe that anybody wouldn't like me...I didn't notice this part of me though until I became a mother of a child that is very similar. I think that life is about choices and you make your choices and deal with the consequences. I always felt sorry for the people who made fun of me...what was so wrong with them that they felt they had to be so mean to people...I never took it personally (for long anyway) my attention span for that type of attack was and is very small.
4 :
Americans need to deal with some of their own major problems instead of invading and occupying other countries. Your country has so many problems but your women are busy shopping for clothes or looking like porn stars.
5 :
I am a teacher and a social worker. My view is that the family as a unit, for so many families, does no longer exist. Family parents both need to work to support the family. Family eating habits are not those where the family sits down, nicely, at supper time, and discuss the day. There is lack of familial unity in almost every level. Children go to school, go to a sitter, or are latch key children with no adult to supervise them. Once home, everyone is busy! Parents are preparing for the next day's work, doing house work, laundry, and the children are left to 'fend' for themselves. Standard social procedures are no longer taught as they once were. Children feel they lack power. Getting their power comes, often, from bullying others. Children can't run next door and play with a friend, anymore.........that family is busy, too! Children who are supervised can't go outside and find someone to play with, as they used to be able to do. That would be dangerous in today's society. My six yr old grandson has no school mates to visit after school, as his parents tell me they don't know the parents.......they don't know what kind of people they are. So, he plays with his cousins, and that is the arena he is safe in, and he goes no farther. I care for this young boy, as both parents work, daily. My grandson is well mannored, and clean spoken. I have tried to FIND him other boys his age with which to play, while at my home. So far, the boys his age have filthy mouths, and no parenting that can be detected at all! Parenting skills have practically disappeared while the computer games and DVDs have taken their place. That is a real trajedy. These same parents are so shocked when they realize their young adults are on drugs or drinking heavily. They are quick to site, "Not our fault, we didn't do them around the kids!"..........uh, huh. The parent with the snack for the child who comes home from school, directly, no longer exists in most of our society. Children are not directed to socially accepted behavior. This, of course, is not meant for those parents who do make certain their children are well parented. The family, as a unit, is rarely seen in most churches, anymore, as well. Those who are, are to be praised..........if only because it does promote unity and responsibility. Responsibility for ones behavior is not being taught anywhere, for most young children. Time is precious, and time passes along, as we rush and hurry and make sure we get our work done, in house and at the work site. Money is scarce and jobs are important. Still, there must be a regular standard of behavior for our children, and we, as adults ARE responsible for teaching it while they are young, and throughout the teen years. Children and teens tell me they cannot speak to their parents.........they are too busy to talk to the children. Young girls don't even know how to approach their mother when they enter puberty. A society without rules that are enforced by parents, is a society that will 'grow' bullies and criminals. Did the parent ASK where that particular item came from, when they find something new or unfamiliar in their child's room? Did they check that out? Do parents, now, believe they only have time to tell their children what NOT to do, instead of what TO do? That is what I see. Life without rules that are kept, is like playing ball on a mountain top. Consider the mountain top has no fence.......there are cliffs completely surrounding the area. Rules are the fence. No rules, no fence, and the children fall off the cliff, while trying to catch the ball. With that secure fence, the children may play, and know when to stop their behavior........they live safely. ....they play ball in joy and no one has to worry about falling. I love children. I've worked with them all my life, and I am 63. I have been guardian, birth mother, foster mother, court advocate, and even had a baby left upon my doorstep! People love my adult boys and their children, as well. We explain to our children what IS o.k. to do, why it is o.k., and what happens if they don't do it. We never hit our children, we only told them we were disappointed if they broke a rule. Still, they grew up to be wonderful citizens and caring, loving people. They don't believe that hurting someone makes them right or strong. They know my rule about speaking in a too loud of a voice. I believe the first person who starts screaming has run out of logic and is cowering with a loud voice. You'd like my children.................all of them. I know I'm proud of them.
6 :
I wouldn't necessarily relate them as an automatic cause and effect, but every shooting case I'm aware of that occurred in a grade school or a high school has a background of bullying (unprovoked battery) or harassment (including sexual). • Complaints the suspect generated about the abuse he'd been subjected to were generally dismissed by adult authority figures as "normal behaviour" if not disregarded altogether. • The systems of belief and etiquette favoured by the suspect's parents often did not take into account the moral need to stand up for oneself. He may be "too well behaved" and needs a sense of universal order in his life. He may at some point have expressed an interest in studying martial arts, or being sent away to boarding/military school, or just attend a faith-based school nearby, either of which would have been declined by the parents for financial OR PHILOSOPHICAL reasons. A bully on the other hand is someone who has not been effectively parented. He does not see his fellow humans as individuals with unique feeling and aspirations.
7 :
Bullying is probably part of society worldwide and it does not limit to age or gender, and of course it is done by people with personality problems. Aggressive bullying goes even further, and the aggressor tends to seriously hurt (or kill) sooner or later. If you combine that with the COMPLETE freedom to purchase weapons in the U.S., you have the perfect lethal combination. While minors cannot legally purchase weapons, all adults can, and not ever being too far out of reach, it is really a wonder that there's not at least one school shooting every single day!
8 :
I think it could be. Some people at my school get bullied for numerous things this one kid I knew got bulled for three years cause his parents make him wear a purity ring. this next kid deserves to be bullied cause he is such a racist to black, hispanics, asians, he's very rude. everyone has a point in their life when they can get bullied some people deal with it well, I used to not be able to I would always throw up my food cause the thought of eating made me sick to my stomach when I was bullied in fifth grade. some kids there's something wrong with them in their mind mentally that triggers something and having people they dont' even know calling them a "freak" or "physco" doesn't help. or you never know some people may bring their violence at home to school.
9 :
A bullied student always feels a loss of prestige because he is made to feel inferior among his peers. He/she wants to get even but cannot do so physically because the bully is usually much bigger than his victim. So he resorts to a weapon, if one is available, to even the score. Often the bully is himself a victim of a bigger person and he evens the score by bullying a smaller guy. I think that there should be no guns in a house that has children even up to the age of 21. While at 15 or so the children look grown they are emotionally immature and do not stop to think of consequences before they act. My parents impressed upon me, when I was in school, that such people were to be avoided. Fighting just resulted in 2 bloody noses and did not prove anything. There are some parents who encourage fighting back because they feel that an insult to the kid is an insult to them. However children do not realize that killing is too drastic and permanent an answer to an unpleasantness. This is essentially the job of the parents to instill a respect for life, and a healthy fear of the consequences to a murderer. If he is made to realize the consequences of his actions by the time he is 6 or 7, this may not happen. Also the child needs to be able to talk about it to his parents without any judgment that he was a sissy for avoiding the bully.
10 :
All those school shooters were victims of bullies and the more teachers refuse to stop bullying the more school shooting there will be.
11 :
yes! we need to stop the bullying. i sympathise with these children who are teased so bad that they lose all control and instead of fighting they kill . this needs to stop. parents and teachers need to do something. pass a bill in congress to help your children and help teachers . my son is bullied and i was to. we need people to go to schools and do conferences and tell these kids that this needs to stop and if it doesn't then strict discipline needs to be put in to action. i remember trying to kill my self at 16 because i was teased so bad because i was really over weight. Now i'm successful and not so over weight. This needs to stop now. Soon we will not have our children safe.
Thursday, December 8, 2011
Can someone explain how the USA high school system works
Can someone explain how the USA high school system works?
Do students get to choose their subjects like in the UK? How come students do Calculus, trigonometry etc, when students in the uk do it all in the same maths class?
Homework Help - 1 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
In high school you can choose your classes but there are some that you have to take. Like health for example. There's some classes where you can't take them till you've had a certain class or are a junior or senior. Like I wasn't able to take Art II till I had Art 1. Its the same with the english,math,science, and other classes. As you go through the years you take higher level classes.Oh, and you need a certain amount of credits to be able to graduate. I don't know why students in the UK do it all in the same math class. Probably just how long the UK school year is maybe?
Read more discussion :
Do students get to choose their subjects like in the UK? How come students do Calculus, trigonometry etc, when students in the uk do it all in the same maths class?
Homework Help - 1 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
In high school you can choose your classes but there are some that you have to take. Like health for example. There's some classes where you can't take them till you've had a certain class or are a junior or senior. Like I wasn't able to take Art II till I had Art 1. Its the same with the english,math,science, and other classes. As you go through the years you take higher level classes.Oh, and you need a certain amount of credits to be able to graduate. I don't know why students in the UK do it all in the same math class. Probably just how long the UK school year is maybe?
Read more discussion :
Thursday, December 1, 2011
I have dual citizen ship(canada, states) I want to go to USA for school. Do i have to pay internation tuiton
I have dual citizen ship(canada, states) I want to go to USA for school. Do i have to pay internation tuiton?
Im wanting to go to UCLA for collage. Im living in canada with dual citizen ship. Do i have to pay internation tution to go to school there?
Financial Aid - 2 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
Ben: It's not that you'll pay "international" tuition rates that's a problem for you - it's that (I'm assuming) you're not a resident of the state of California. Therefore, you'll pay out-of-state rates, the same rates that someone from Wisconsin or Georgia or New Jersey would pay. UCLA is a member of the University of California state university system, and as such, receives extensive tax dollar subsidies from the taxpayers of California. In return, the UC system charges discounted rates to all California residents and a much higher rate to everyone else. Supposedly, the higher rate represents the "true cost" of providing those students with an education. Despite frequent and incorrect statements, a student can not gain state residency in California by moving there to attend school. Think about that for a minute, and you'd realize that only freshmen would ever pay out-of-state rates. Presumably everyone who makes it through their freshman year has now lived in California for a year - so by the commonly offered advice, every student is a California resident by their second year of school. The truth is that a student who moves to California for the primary purpose of attending a university or college can not gain state residency, no matter how long they stay in school. So - long story short - your "problem" isn't your dual citizenship - it's that you're not a California resident. Good luck!
2 :
You will if your residence is Canada. If you establish US residence before going to school, then you won't. If you establish California residence, then you won't even have to pay out of state tuition.
Read more discussion :
Im wanting to go to UCLA for collage. Im living in canada with dual citizen ship. Do i have to pay internation tution to go to school there?
Financial Aid - 2 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
Ben: It's not that you'll pay "international" tuition rates that's a problem for you - it's that (I'm assuming) you're not a resident of the state of California. Therefore, you'll pay out-of-state rates, the same rates that someone from Wisconsin or Georgia or New Jersey would pay. UCLA is a member of the University of California state university system, and as such, receives extensive tax dollar subsidies from the taxpayers of California. In return, the UC system charges discounted rates to all California residents and a much higher rate to everyone else. Supposedly, the higher rate represents the "true cost" of providing those students with an education. Despite frequent and incorrect statements, a student can not gain state residency in California by moving there to attend school. Think about that for a minute, and you'd realize that only freshmen would ever pay out-of-state rates. Presumably everyone who makes it through their freshman year has now lived in California for a year - so by the commonly offered advice, every student is a California resident by their second year of school. The truth is that a student who moves to California for the primary purpose of attending a university or college can not gain state residency, no matter how long they stay in school. So - long story short - your "problem" isn't your dual citizenship - it's that you're not a California resident. Good luck!
2 :
You will if your residence is Canada. If you establish US residence before going to school, then you won't. If you establish California residence, then you won't even have to pay out of state tuition.
Read more discussion :
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)